- [Announcer] Pennsylvania has many delightful brooks and streams that flow together to form major rivers.

From the Delaware River in the east to Susquehanna, in mid-state to the Allegheny and Monongahela in the west.

Do you know which is Pennsylvania's longest river?

(playful music) You're invited to play "The Pennsylvania Game".

Test your knowledge of the Commonwealth's people, places and products.

"The Pennsylvania Game" is brought you in part by: Uni-Mart Incorporated.

With stores in Pennsylvania, New York, New Jersey and Delaware.

Serving you with courtesy and convenience every day of the year.

(lively music) And from Landmark.

And landmark is A, a savings and loan, B, a bank, C, a leading mortgage lender, or D, all of the above.

The correct answer is D, all of the above.

People to people.

It's just a better way to bank.

(playful music) Now, here's the host of "The Pennsylvania Game", Lynn Hinds.

(audience applauding) - Thank you.

Thank you, thank you very much.

(audience applauding) Thank you, thank you, thank you.

My voice is a little husky.

My wife says it's sexy, so I'm gonna leave it in the act.

What can I say?

(audience laughing) Thank you for being here.

We've got a good studio audience and a good panelist.

Let's meet our panel.

Back again, he loves to play and he loves to win, Bernard Asbell.

(audience applauding) And he's freshly retired after 35 years with Penn State's Cooperative Extension Service, Marion Deppen.

(audience applauding) And from Pittsburgh, she loves to win and beat Bernie Asbell as much as he loves to win, Lynn Cullen.

(audience applauding) All right.

Now, I want you to listen closely to this first question, 'cause I wanna amend it a little bit.

Just a little bit.

So listen.

- [Announcer] Pennsylvania has many beautiful rivers.

Rivers that have played an important role in our history.

What is the longest river entirely in Pennsylvania?

A, Susquehanna.

B, Allegheny.

C, Delaware.

Or D, Monongahela.

- The word I'd like to Amanda is entirely, almost entirely, almost pert near but not plum in Pennsylvania.

And I'll tell you the story behind that amendation.

Which one, Bernie?

- Well, I was hoping Juniata would be one of the choices because everywhere I go, I see the Juniata River.

Monongahela, such a Pennsylvania name.

- [Lynn Hinds] Yeah, isn't it great?

A great song.

- I think I'm gonna go with that.

- Monongahela?

- Yeah.

- Okay, Marion.

- Oh my gosh.

He's exactly right.

I'm gonna follow him right along there.

And your clue, they're almost in.

- Almost entirely.

- Almost entirely.

I think that brings us down to the end number D. - You've watched the game before and learned when to emulate Bernie?

- Yes, indeed.

(Bernie laughs) - Lynn, you're not gonna do this?

- Who am I to resist?

- Oh, resist.

Go ahead.

Go out on your own.

- No.

I think the Mon, perhaps.

It's like that through Southern Pennsylvania.

Might dip into maybe West Virginia or something.

- Maybe it starts in West Virginia, who knows?

What's the answer?

- [Announcer] The answer is B, the Allegheny.

(audience laughing) The Delaware as seen here, and the Susquehanna are longer, but we share them with New York.

The Allegheny starts in Potter County and runs 325 miles to Pittsburgh where it joins the Monongahela to form the mighty Ohio.

(calm music) - I gotta tell you that I amended this because I thought we got great rivers, let's do a question.

And I did.

And the Allegheny, it starts in Potter County.

Isn't entirely in Pennsylvania.

If I look closer at the map and for about 20 miles, it sneaks up into New York before it comes back.

But it is the longest in Pennsylvania.

I mean, it's 325 miles.

'Cause the others are in New York, mostly in New York, mostly in West Virginia.

The Mon is a long time in West Virginia.

- [Lynn Cullen] It is.

- Before it gets up to Brownfield.

- We had a great start, Lynn.

Great start.

(audience laughing) - I love this next question.

I've been working on this for two years, trying to get the right visuals.

And I got them and here it is.

It's great.

- [Announcer] John Wise of Lancaster built something that he sold to the military during the Civil War.

What did John Wise build?

A, submarine.

B, flame thrower.

C, observation balloon.

Or D, Naval torpedo.

- John Wise of Lancaster built something he sold to the military during the Civil War.

They paid, I think 650 bucks for the first one.

Marion, what'd he build?

Which of those four.

- I'm gonna go with the observation balloon.

And that's because if he sold it to them, they paid for it and they wouldn't have...

They did use observation balloons.

So if they paid for it, they would've used it.

- So you think they didn't use submarines or flame throwers or naval torpedoes in the Civil War, okay.

That's one way to look at it.

- Yeah, but they wouldn't have spent 650 bucks for an observation balloon.

But they might have for a submarine.

(audience laughing) - Yeah.

Especially if it didn't leak, they might have.

Bernie.

- Well, that leaves flame thrower, but I don't think we were civil, during the Civil War, we were not civilized enough the way we are today to burn up people and use flame throwers.

There was that monitor in the Meramec.

We were starting to think submarine.

And I think I'm gonna go for a $650 submarine.

- I'm gonna tell you that all of these were indeed used during the Civil War.

Let's listen.

- Flame throwers?

- [Announcer] The answer is C, observation balloon.

John Wise's balloon got away from union troops and they shot it down to keep it out of confederate hands.

John Wises disappeared in 1879 while riding a balloon over Lake Michigan.

(audience laughing) - It was made out of India, silk.

And that's why it cost so much.

And they gave it, the union troops that got away from them and they didn't want the confederacy to get it, so they shot it.

(panelists laugh) But that was it.

That was an actual picture of it.

- Was it war fun then?

- Yeah.

- But they did use flame throwers and submarines.

And what was the other one?

- Torpedo?

- Yeah, torpedoes, yeah.

I don't know how they used his flame thrower, but they did evidently from the history books used.

Marion, your family's been in Pennsylvania for a long time, you tell me.

- Yes, we're celebrating 250 years, 1986.

And his special privilege to join these distinguished panelists in you in "The Pennsylvania Game".

- [Lynn Hinds] Your family came from where?

- Switzerland.

Arrived in Philadelphia April to September on the high seas.

- And the year was?

- And the year was 1736.

- [Lynn Hinds] Wow.

- Lynn's Pennsylvania heritage and mine together add up to seven.

(panelists laugh) - So you got them.

That is marvelous though.

If your family took notes, boy, no wonder so much about Pennsylvania.

That's a great heritage in Pennsylvania.

- It's been fun.

But we got a book that thick.

A lot of funny stories and- - I bet so.

You're retired now after 35 years.

- Yes, I've been in a cooperative extension service here at Penn State, working with our staff out in Pennsylvania and just retired a couple months ago.

- President Eisenhower retired in Pennsylvania and he said the first six months, he was gonna sit in his rock and share on the front porch.

And then after six months, he was gonna start to rock back and forth, very general.

Your retirement is much more active than that.

I know you're looking for all sorts of new things to do.

- Well, following up on a bunch of hobbies and getting into woodland, some timbers and recreation and getting out doors quite a bit.

It's fun.

- Let's see if you know anything about a Pennsylvania product that started for a long time ago with a famous Pennsylvania.

- [Announcer] In 1881, this man started a company that made a Pennsylvania Dutch candy called Moshie.

More than 100 years later, the company's most famous product is: A, Hershey Bars.

B, Luden Cough Drops.

C, Animal Crackers.

Or D, Wise Potato Chips.

- Yeah, that Wise is back again.

The guy that made the balloon was back with the potato chips.

No, yeah, the candy was called Moshie, M-O-S-H-I-E. And the most famous product that same company makes, of course, it's bigger than it was when he was making Moshie in his grandma's kitchen.

But what is the product?

And I guess it's, Ms. Cullen, I believe it's your turn.

- Yeah, I'm afraid it is.

One would be inclined to go with Hershey Bars.

But my inclinations have gotten me nowhere.

So I will go with, because you are in need of them, Lynn, and that's the only reason.

- I wish I had one right now, cough drop, yeah.

- Cough drops.

- Yeah, okay, she picks B.

- My inclination would be to go with Hershey Bars, but I don't think Milton Hershey would've called his first bars Hershey's.

He called them Moshies.

- [Lynn Hinds] So you are going.

- So I'm gonna go with Hershey Bars.

- Okay.

(audience laughing) Are you convinced, Marion?

- I sure am.

And Milton Hershey was in the chocolate business in and out many times before he finally put it all together.

- [Lynn Hinds] That's right, he was.

So Moshie could very easily have been one of the first products.

I don't know why- - Well, Ludens could be- - Well who knows?

- We'll see, we'll see.

- [Announcer] The answer is B, Luden, cough drops.

(audience laughing and applauding) William Luden started making candy on the kitchen stove.

Here, he's shown with the buggy he used to make deliveries.

Working with a pharmacist, he put menthol in his cough drops.

The eight-acre factory in Redding speaks eloquently of his success.

Luden also makes 5th Avenue candy bars and various other confections.

(lively music) - And with that one right, Lynn Cullen just sneaked up and tied Marion Deppen.

And they're tied with one.

Let's hear it for our panels.

(audience applauding) Great.

Let's walk over here.

Don't those candies all look good?

We gave you the score.

Now let's give you our first clue for our Mystery Pennsylvanian.

You're all gonna get this one.

He used money won betting on horse racing to buy a team in another sport.

He used money won betting on horse racing to buy a team in another sport.

And panel, just write the answer down under line one if you know who that is.

And if you don't, there'll be two other clues and they'll be coming up directly.

And we'll get to those right after we get to the next question, which is about, hmm.

Oh, it's about television.

Happy darn.

- [Announcer] WQED in Pittsburgh became the nation's first community sponsored educational television station when it began broadcasting in 1954.

WQED began in a building that was a former: A, church manse.

B, ice cream plant.

C, beer brewery.

Or D, automobile dealership.

- Okay, QED.

The first in America, community-sponsored television.

Was it church man or parsonage, it's sometimes called depending on what denomination.

Ice cream plant, beer brewery or automobile dealership.

And I believe Bernie, we're back to you for the start on this one.

- And it's public television.

That had to be...

It sounds like a church manse, but I'll bet it was a beer brewery.

Let's go, let's see.

(audience laughing) - That'd be a nice answer.

- Yeah, yeah.

- [Lynn Hinds] Yeah, Marion.

- Oh, have to take a lot of space.

So it'd either have to be an automobile dealership or a beer brewery.

Automobiles were gone big then.

- [Lynn Hinds] Yeah.

- And I would think it would've been in the beer brewery.

- 1954.

Lynn Cullen.

- Yeah.

You know, there's one thing in Pittsburgh that there are a lot of.

Old beer brewery.

- There are.

- There are.

Tons of them.

And there're not brewing beer in them anymore.

So I wouldn't know why one couldn't have it television studio.

- I worked for QED for a while and they did not have a lot of space.

I'll tell you that.

It was very, very tight.

Where was it?

- [Announcer] The answer is A, church manse.

(audience laughing) Built in 1891, the stone building was the manse of the Bellefield Presbyterian Church.

WQED, now located in a modern building was first to telecast instruction to elementary schools.

- That's right.

They've recently torn down the Bellefield Presbyterian Church just the tower.

- They just retained the tower.

And it's really, it's very nice that they did thought to do that.

- Yeah, it's a nice building with the tower is assembled there, but it's right across the street in that old stone building now parting the University of Pittsburgh, that was QED at first.

- Interesting.

- Yeah.

They now have a building that's, their hallway is bigger than our studio.

Well, it's a nice, the first station in the United States in Pennsylvania, WQED.

Oh, sports.

You guys do so well on sports questions, we have four sports greats and we only wanna know one thing about them.

See if you can guess.

- [Announcer] Pennsylvania has seen its share of football greats.

Leon Hart was one of only two linemen to win the Heisman trophy.

Jim Thorpe was an all around great with the Carlisle Indians.

One of football's all time running greats was Red Grange, The Galloping Ghost.

Mike Ditka was all American at Pitt.

Which of these is not a native Pennsylvanian?

A, Leon Hart.

B, Jim Thorpe.

C, Red Grange.

Or D, Mike Ditka.

(lively music) - Whatever happened to Mike Ditka?

Where did he ever go?

(panelists laughing) Marion, do you know which one of those is not an native Pennsylvanian?

Four pretty famous, well-known football players there.

- Well, let's go for Jim Thorpe.

He played Carlisle Indian school.

- [Lynn Hinds] That's right.

- But I think he came in from the Midwest.

- You think he did?

Okay.

Lynn Cullen.

- Yeah, for some reason, I think that too.

I don't know why, but I think he's like from out in Oklahoma or something and I know Mike Ditka's from Aliquippa.

I don't know where the others are.

- You think Red Grange is from Pennsylvania?

Okay, go ahead, I'm sorry.

- Oh, I was just gonna say Red Grange.

- Well I don't know.

- Until you said that.

- [Lynn Hinds] Well, I don't know if he is or not.

- I know that there is a place called Jim Thorpe, Pennsylvania.

So that would lean towards eliminating him.

I will have to go to the Red Grange.

Even though you just told me that's not.

- Red, I didn't tell you that.

Red Grange, The Galloping Ghost was one of the great football players of all time.

Who was it?

- [Announcer] The answer is B, Jim Thorpe.

Although he played pro baseball as well as pro football and has been called the world's greatest athlete, Jim Thorpe was from Shawnee, Oklahoma.

Notre Dame's fame lineman, Leon Hart is from Turtle Creek, Allegheny County.

Red Grange, The Galloping Ghost of Illinois, hailed from Foxville, Sullivan County.

Mike Ditka, coach of the Super Bowl Champion, Chicago Bears calls Aliquippa, Beaver County, his hometown.

- And Lynn Cullen knew that he was from Aliquippa.

And she and Marion Deppen are ahead with two.

We're gonna shut Bernie out this time.

- Wow.

- Let's hear it for our panel.

(audience applauding) Clue number two for our Mystery Pennsylvanian.

If I can make it through.

He was quite an athlete himself in his younger days, boxing, baseball and football.

That's clue number two to our Mystery Pennsylvanian.

Clue number one was he used money betting on horse racing to buy a team in another sport.

If you know the answer, jot it down on line two.

And if you've got a question for us, love to hear from you.

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University Park, PA, of course.

And we'd be glad to hear from you.

I saw some scribbling going down.

I think that's probably the Mystery Pennsylvanian.

It's not that difficult at least to one or two people.

Oh, I love this next one.

I love this next one.

They won't love this next one, but I love this next one.

It's about the names of certain things outdoors.

- [Announcer] If you were exploring Pennsylvania's outdoors and saw a bufflehead, a hooded merganser, a lesser scaup and a redhead, would you recognize them as being: A, woodpecker.

B, insect.

C, orchid.

Or D, duck.

- A bufflehead, a hooded merganser, a lesser scaup and a redhead.

What species of?

Lynn.

You get to start.

- Why are you laughing at?

- I just love this question.

- I really don't recognize any of those terms except redhead.

And I've not recognized that in the right way.

And hooded merganser, I think I've heard of.

And when I heard merganser, I thought duck.

- [Lynn Hinds] So you did, okay.

(audience laughing) Bernie.

what did you think when you heard bufflehead?

- Anybody knows those are all orchids.

(audience laughing) - The greater scaup, now could be an, well, I don't know.

Marion, go ahead.

- Well, we've had a lot of questions about water today and the only thing in there that swims is duck.

So we'll go with ducks.

- Insects can swim if you toss them in.

(audience laughing) They do.

Which of these is it?

I wonder.

I do.

- [Announcer] The answer is D, duck.

The bufflehead is probably named for his distinctive head.

As perhaps the hooded merganser.

Certainly, the redhead gets its name from its bright red head.

All of these, including the lesser scaup, get their food by diving beneath the surface of the water.

- Yeah, there are some ducks that feed on top and some that dive down.

And those all dive down underneath the water to feed.

Next time you see those, you'll know what you're looking at.

See?

It's educational.

And if I like that last question, you waitlist next question.

This is absolutely, if you get this one right, I'm gonna be amazed.

(panelists laugh) You may make a comeback here, Bernie.

You may get this one, but this is a tough question.

Might surprise you.

Listen.

- [Announcer] He called himself Dick clay on the radio, Cactus Dick on a country music show.

But when he got his own TV show in Philadelphia in 1956, he used his real name.

Is his real name: A, Mike Douglas.

B, Dick Van Dyke.

C, Dick Clark.

Or D, Rich Little.

(playful music) - Boy, is that an interesting question or not, huh?

- Sure is.

- Cactus Bernie, what do you say?

- Well everybody thinks it's Mike Douglas, 'cause he started his career in television in Philadelphia but I know it's Dick Clark and I bet you, they'll all copy me.

(audience laughing) - I lived in the Philadelphia area at that time.

It was Dick Clark, Dick Clark, Dick Clark in TV.

- Still is.

- Yeah, he's still around.

- He's still 29 years old.

(audience laughing) - That's true.

Lynn Cullen.

- Well, 56 Found me dancing around the living room in Green Bay, Wisconsin but I was dancing with Dick Clark.

- [Lynn Hinds] Were you, really?

- In Philadelphia, Pennsylvania.

- Is that right?

- Well, it was amazing because I danced before I even walked.

(panelists laugh) - Two years old?

Let's see what the answer is.

- [Announcer] The answer is C, Dick Clark.

"American Bandstand" was a local Philadelphia show when Dick Clark took over.

In 1957, it became a network program as millions tuned in to see TV's this jockey spin records.

And watch the kids dance to the latest hit tunes.

Still going strong some 30 years later, Dick Clark and "American Bandstand" are part of Pennsylvania's cultural history.

- We thank Dick Clark presenting.

It's a great footage.

That's pristine stuff, isn't it?

Mike Douglas starting Cleveland.

- That's right, then he went to Philadelphia.

I was on his show in Cleveland once.

- Were you?

- Yeah.

But I forgot, but I knew Philadelphia was in there.

- [Lynn Hinds] Did you play your guitar or read one of your books?

- No, no, no.

I talked about one of my books and there was this comedian.

Who's this comedian?

He used to be a rabbi.

What's his name again?

- Oh yeah, Jackie Mason.

- He kept on interrupting, interrupting, interrupting.

And upstaging my book about automation of all things, wow.

- He is that?

I can't imagine.

That's terrible.

We got one more question here.

This is about something that I guess Marion, you might have a little edge on this and you get to go first, which is unfortunate, but let's listen.

- [Announcer] In 1982, Coronilla Varia L. Penngift was adopted as the state beautification and conservation plant.

What is the more common name of this plant?

A, Chamomille.

B, Honeysuckle.

C, Crownvetch.

Or D, Clover.

- Now the question is, can we trust you to tell the truth in your answer?

(audience laughing) That's the question.

What is it, Marion?

- C. - [Lynn Hinds] You're going with Crownvetch.

- Berks County, Pennsylvania.

- Okay.

All right, Lynn.

- Now what am I supposed to do?

- [Lynn Hinds] To believe him or not.

- It is clear that this man knows what he's talking about and I'm supposed to go up and say, no, it's Clover?

(audience laughing) - You could say no, its Chamomille.

- I wasn't born yesterday.

It's Crownvetch.

(audience laughing) - Wow.

- Were you born yesterday?

- No, I wasn't born yesterday, the Dick Clark was.

But Coronilla Varia, Crownvetch.

I mean, that's just, that's the, Crownvetch.

- Is that what it is, huh?

Well, I guess you've either fooled them or they're all correct.

Marion, let's say what is the right answer?

- [Announcer] The answer is C, Crownvetch.

Discovered on a Pennsylvania farm by a Penn State professor, It was named Penngift.

Penn for the state and gift for the farmer where the lagoon was found.

PennDOT has used Crownvetch along highways since 1958.

- It was, indeed.

Marion, go ahead and talk about that a little bit.

It was discovered by.

- Yes, it was discovered by one of our Penn State Extension specialists on this farm in Eastern Berks county.

Not really very far from where our ancestors, started farming in Berks County a long time ago.

And the seeds did come over from Europe.

A farmer got some seeds from Europe and kept them a couple generations.

- [Lynn Hinds] That's tough to grow.

- [Bernie] Did you send in the question?

- No.

(panelists laughing) (audience laughing) - That stuff will grow anywhere though, won't it?

It really is a great hearty plant that will grow where other stuff won't grow.

You've seen it on highways and so forth.

Clue three.

He has rings on four fingers, but he's still waiting for a ring for his thumb.

That's our Mystery Pennsylvania final clue.

Rings on four fingers.

Still waiting for a ring for the thumb.

First clue was he used money betting on horse racing to buy a team in another sport.

He was quite an athlete himself in his younger days.

Boxing, baseball, and football.

And the final clue he has rings on four fingers, but still wants one for his thumbs.

And Lynn Cullen is smiling broadly, 'cause I bet she knows the answer to this one, but who is it?

- Well I knew it on the first one because Art Rooney has always been happier at the race track than even at a football game.

- [Lynn Hinds] Okay, Marion?

- Chuck Noll.

- Noll.

- Yeah.

- Tonight's just not my night, Lynn.

I mean I am vincible after all.

Quite, and I have no answer.

In fact, it may be no, if it's nobody, I win.

(panelists laughing) - [Lynn Hinds] Who is our Mystery Pennsylvania?

- [Announcer] Art Rooney Sr. founded a professional football team in Pittsburgh in 1933.

Using money won at the racetrack, Mr Rooney named his new team, The Pirates.

Of course, we know the team now is The Steelers.

Mr. Rooney was quite an athlete himself at his younger years, but seeing his Steelers win the Super Bowl four times to set an unmatched record was a supreme thrill.

Art Rooney Sr., much loved by everyone, a famous Pennsylvanian.

- Well, I never thought I'd lived to see the day that Lynn Cullen would beat you in two games, Bernie.

But Lynn does have six, right?

Marion has five, right?

And Bernie, you've been destroyed here.

(panelists laughing) (audience laughing) - Lynn, I'm gonna take you to dinner tonight.

(panelists laughing) (audience laughing) - It's a great job.

The Art Rooney is such a grand gentleman.

- He is.

Everybody who has ever met the man comes away shaking their head and saying, "What a great man."

Humble and dear.

- But you know what?

One of his secrets is when you meet Art Rooney, he's such a great man and he owns The Steelers and so forth.

And just a legend in Pittsburgh.

Before you can say "Hello, Mr. Rooney, how are you?"

He wants to know where you're from and how are you.

And oh, I know people that live in that town.

And the next thing you know, he's learned all about you.

You've talked about yourself in his presence, which is I think a real secret too.

Be interested in other people.

Where are you from, Bernie?

(panelists laughing) (audience laughing) But he built quite a dynasty with The Steeler.

It's so great because he goes back all the way to George Halas and The Bears and to see him come out with four championships.

I mean, you've gotta feel good for him.

- But I think he's gonna wait a long time for that one for the thumb.

- Do you really?

- Oh.

- Well, I'm not too sure about that.

The Steelers have fallen on somewhat hard times, but it's tough to, you know, it's a tough league to get into.

What gave it to you on the first clue?

- Horse racing.

- Horse racing?

- Horse racing.

Because I mean, I do know that he still goes to the racetrack and he knows his horses.

- He won enough.

- He won a ton of money.

- And in one day, he won enough and I don't think it was a lot of money.

I think he said it was like $2,500, but the franchises didn't cost much back in the early '30s for national football league team.

But he took the money he won horse racing and bought The Steelers.

- You know, who else knows a lot about horses?

- Who?

Me?

(audience laughing) - Does he?

- Oh yeah.

Oh yeah.

- Well, Confucius said, "It's known that one horse can run faster than another.

He just didn't know which one."

(panelists laughing) And race, I guess was the answer to that.

Do you have a good time?

Good questions?

- Yes we did.

- I did.

(panelists laughing) (audience laughing) - Well, I think we ought to dedicate this show to John Wise, who in 1879, disappeared over Lake Michigan.

(panelists laughing) In one of his homemade balloons.

Thank you, all so much for playing and thanks to you for playing too.

We appreciate the studio audience and you at home.

We appreciate your joining us each week for "The Pennsylvania Game".

Hope it makes you feel proud to be a Pennsylvanian, and it sure does us.

We thank you for joining us.

We'll see you next time when we all gather right here to play what audience?

- [Audience] "The Pennsylvania Game."

- You got it.

See you later.

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And landmark is A, a savings and loan, B, a bank, C, a leading mortgage lender, or D, all of the above.

The correct answer is D, all of the above.

People to people.

It's just a better way to bank.

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